tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post253190944412723682..comments2017-05-14T17:49:51.859-07:00Comments on End the BLM: ARE THE FOREST SERVICE AND ITS BOOT-LICKERS BEHIND THE SHERIFF PALMER SMEAR CAMPAIGN?End the BLMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-28361369169976952312016-03-01T14:31:28.306-08:002016-03-01T14:31:28.306-08:00Firstly, "Miner" who is actually a ranch...Firstly, "Miner" who is actually a rancher, I've not mentioned the Bundy ranch circus, nor have I mentioned the Hammond case, at least not in this post. It is irrelevant. I am talking purely about the staged protest at the John Day meeting on January 26th 2016. I am talking about the USFS and other agency-connected people, with an axe to grind with Sheriff Palmer, who, I believe, are deliberately trying to install a puppet sheriff to further their agendas.<br /><br />I have said NO ONE is bad. I have stated only FACTS. All of which are gleaned from their own publically available information and words from THIER OWN MOUTHS!<br /><br />Second, I'm not a journalist - I deal in truth, not talking points or politically-slanted agendas. I am an investigative blogger. When I see a gross injustice, like that which is being perpetrated against Sheriff Palmers, I am compelled to act. Most people are satisfied to call other out who try an make a difference, even if they make one tiny, almost irrelevant mistake. <br /><br />You obviously can't hold a conversation without resorting to insults and anger, so there's really no point in me conversing with you. I asked you a couple of questions about what you stated was wrong with my article and you have refused to reply to those questions.<br /><br />Just for the record, before I shut down comments all together shortly, I do NOT think everybody who works for the government is bad. I didn't say anything remotely like that and you know it. <br /><br />Also, I am not denying you YOUR experience of agencies. Do NOT deny me mine.<br /><br />Also for the record, incase you didn't really read my responses AGAIN, (people seem to be unable to read a whole article these days,) wannabe sheriff's MOTHER (not FATHER,) is EX-USFS as it says on her Facebook profile. (In case that goes bye-bye, I have screenshots.) You told me I was wrong. It would seem you don't think women have entered the workforce yet? You ASSUMED I was talking about his father. I was not. I know full well what he did for a living. I didn't mention him because it was irrelevant. I do not wish to bring ANYBODY into this mess who does not deserve to be brought into it. But, alas, your assumptions made that necessary. So, that's on YOU.<br /><br />If you attack me, I will defend myself with truth. Got it?<br /><br />Insults don't work on me. I've dealt with bigger, badder, scarier, more articulate assholes than you, believe me! LOL!<br /><br />And with that, I am shutting down comments on this blog. They are a distraction I don't need. I don't have the time to endlessly delete the out and out offensive trolls and to respond to those who have relevant (if somewhat pissy!) comments. And the indefensible cannot be defended. Because of how I make my living (and I won't go into details,) I have dedicated myself to researching various facets of this whole Eastern Oregon Saga almost full-time since it began in January. This is so important. This whole thing with Sheriff Palmer is crucial to this whole country. That's not dramatic - it just IS. <br /><br />What they are doing to Sheriff Palmer is criminal. If you - the collective you, not anybody in particular - cannot see that, do not recognize that, understand that, then there is no hope for you, your family, your county, or your country.<br /><br />I don't know what else to say to you, if you cannot see this in the face of the evidence I (and others,) have already shown you. But there is more to come, A LOT more.<br /><br />And, 'Miner' I wish you all the best, God speed, and good luck with your ranch under Agenda 21. Better start sending in those agency job applications. Whether or not you have experienced the horrors and abuses others have thus far, Miner, mark my words, you will. You will not escape the agency machine. Your industry is marked for destruction. Make no mistake.<br /><br />Au revoir! Auf wiedersehen! Goodbye!<br /><br />- End the BLM.End the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-13362539555295242922016-03-01T12:50:54.301-08:002016-03-01T12:50:54.301-08:00Yup, End The BLM has just shown their true colors....Yup, End The BLM has just shown their true colors. Attack the people personally when there is no way to go. I see past forest service employee, but hell for all you know she could have been a seasonal recreation tech (toilet cleaner of campgrounds). I'm seeing that your facts are based on small pieces of truth. You see something small like person lighting a match without knowing all the facts and run like a school kid telling everyone that you just saw an arsonist light a match. <br /><br />Be sure your facts are correct before you open your mouth next time. Also stating "you feel" or "they must be" isn't stating fact.... I know you're smarter than that, yet you use these phrases over and over in your article. You instantly assumed that because I called you out on your article that I am related to someone noted there. Really??? How about some more fact finding? As for the Hammonds? They admitted to starting the fires on all accounts. Arson is arson, duh! <br /><br />One last thing, if you don't have time to reply to a comment due to other engagements, how about you don't answer until you have a professional response. It's a poor journalist who is unable to respond with a well thought out and solid statement. You should probably work on this for future articles. It helps greatly when trying to sound credible. I must be an operative of the gov.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11217323903050700235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-39234516759570691172016-03-01T12:14:12.742-08:002016-03-01T12:14:12.742-08:00Actually, I have no connection to any of the peopl...Actually, I have no connection to any of the people mentioned in your article. I grew up in Nevada and had to deal with the Bundys on a regular basis. I agree, the Bundys are morons. <br /><br />Your article (whether intentional or not) appears to lump all agency personnel together. <br /><br />I work very closely with my range specialist while dealing with my grazing allotments. Many of these folks are in favor of grazing as well as the relationship of all of us ranchers. The only people I have ever seen the BLM have a problem with are folks who abuse their allotment use such as keeping their cows on too long, putting them out too early or having more head on the allotment that allowed. It's usually these folks that put up a show saying they have been wronged. Why? Because they broke the rules and got called on it. These people are acting like little kids who are spoiled. This whole issue is getting old.I must be an operative of the gov.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11217323903050700235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-86867793024949499982016-02-29T10:43:02.111-08:002016-02-29T10:43:02.111-08:00Miner, I don't have time to respond adequately...Miner, I don't have time to respond adequately to this right now - I have engagements today. But, rest assured, I will respond, in full this evening.<br /><br />But, I will ask you this one thing in the meantime - is this NOT the wannabe sheriff's mother? -<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/chris.mckinley.142/about<br /><br />According to public records, this is the mother of the wannabe sheriff I am referring to. Are you talking about a different wannabe sheriff? Perhaps the 'city' person? You may be thinking of a past wannabe. <br /><br />Does that NOT say "Past : US Forest Service" on her profile there?<br /><br />I can read. Can you?<br /><br />Or do you just not know the people you THINK you know that well?<br /><br />I didn't want to drag family members into this garbage created by their relatives, but when you attack my info, I will retaliate with more truth. End of story. So, keep it coming. <br /><br />Next?<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-64552760112231884932016-02-29T06:10:44.155-08:002016-02-29T06:10:44.155-08:00Just want to clarify for you that your statement r...Just want to clarify for you that your statement regarding the wannabe sheriff is not fact. For someone who wants to "pluck their own eyes out" at misinformation you just printed it as fact. First off, the "wannabe sheriff is NOT the son of a USFS employee. He is, in FACT, the son of a retired rancher who passed away over a year ago. Also, he is NOT the father of a USFS employee, but is in FACT the father of a Oregon Deparment of Forestry firefighter. He is an uncle of a USFS temporary wild land firefighter, who with his cousin put their lives on the line fighting a terrible fire in our county last summer. So I am sure with ALL these connections that somehow makes him a bad person? Whatever. You have become a mudslinger no better than those who make "vile" comments......if you are going to make a case in point, ONLY print what is fact. Ruins your credibility.Minerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00106999288029839229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-90090997428384669112016-02-28T19:04:46.920-08:002016-02-28T19:04:46.920-08:00Firstly, I think Bundy and his cohorts are idiots....Firstly, I think Bundy and his cohorts are idiots.<br /><br />Secondly, I don't know who you are, so I don't have an opinion on you.<br /><br />Third, I'm interested in nothing but the truth. I have called our several people whom it seems have an agenda and have strong ties to or work for USFS.<br /><br />Fourth, there are several agencies who are involved in the daily administration of and enforcement on the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. These include state and federal agencies.<br /><br />Fifth, BLM are just the most aggressive agency and one I have personal experience of, hence the name. (I assume you are alluding to the name of the blog in your comment.) It just so happens that when the whole Malheur thing blew up, I was starting this blog. The main focus was supposed to be the Hammonds treatment and the involvement of BLM employees in their demise, and other BLM crimes, of which there are many. I've not even got around to covering that yet. Unfortunately, the whole Malheur circus detracted from the plight of the Hammonds. But, just because I've not published anything specifically on the Hammond case / BLM's involvement, doesn't mean I haven't been working on it. I have. As have others.<br /><br />I am not in any way trying to stir up trouble. I am trying to subvert trouble! And you last sentence is ridiculous and offensive and a giant leap even for the most steadfast liberal nut-case. I do hope you are not one of those.<br /><br />I judge people on what they do and what they say. The people mentioned in this article, I believe, are involved in a plot to unseat Sheriff Glenn Palmer. There is evidence for this. I have mentioned NOTHING that there is not supporting evidence for. All these people have ties, not only to each other, but to the USFS also. You would have to be either blind, naïve, or simple to think there is absolutely nothing sinister going on here. I believe there is and I will do my damnedest to prevent this assault on a good man and a great sheriff.<br /><br />I can only assume that you are related to one of the people I mentioned. Perhaps you should ask your relative why they have been coerced into doing what they are doing.<br /><br />Finally, I would never say somebody is a bad person just because they work for whichever agency. There are lots of good people work for agencies. There are lots of wonderful police, like Sheriff Glenn Palmer, for instance, which is why I am expending my time and energy in his defense. I've no idea why you would even think such a thing, unless you have some doubts yourself, or some feelings of guilt for some reason. I don't know you, you don't know me and I would never assume about you what you assumed about me. I'm sorry you have such hatred toward your fellow man that you would make such a judgment.<br /><br />- End the BLM<br /> End the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-32194504228378329442016-02-28T09:38:13.265-08:002016-02-28T09:38:13.265-08:00So, are you saying that I am a bad person because...So, are you saying that I am a bad person because my grandpa who died when my mom was 6months old worked for the forest service? Or is it just having a connection to a living agency employee? And how exactly is taking over a wildlife refuge run by the US "FISH AND WILDLIFE" supposed to be a punch to the Bureau of "LAND MANAGEMENT"? Isn't that like saying, "I hate Walmart, so let's occupy Kmart!"<br /><br />I think you're just trying to stir up trouble. You must be one of those folks who support shooting police officers and soldiers. I must be an operative of the gov.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11217323903050700235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-67095319812672518622016-02-26T17:41:48.873-08:002016-02-26T17:41:48.873-08:00I'd like to add, also, that Grant County is in...I'd like to add, also, that Grant County is infested with these agency-connected people in local government positions. It's time to start looking into the background of who you are voting for. That goes for EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE. We MUST know exactly WHO we are electing!<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-29821935431299051312016-02-26T17:39:41.113-08:002016-02-26T17:39:41.113-08:00We won't, Right! We're doing everything w...We won't, Right! We're doing everything we can to stop this takeover of Grant County.<br /><br />People were up in arms when a few peacefully- protesting ranchers took over an empty, closed wildlife refuge. Where's the indignation about this Forest Service attempted take-over of an entire county by using a dirty tricks campaign to unseat the amazing sheriff and shaming everybody into voting for their pliant, pathetic puppet?<br /><br />Everybody in Grant County, whether they support Glenn Palmer or not, should be incensed by this. It is an outrage.<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-25388631267677662162016-02-26T17:20:30.537-08:002016-02-26T17:20:30.537-08:00Great article, don't let up!Great article, don't let up!righthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10464811030315169429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-80516031244894015772016-02-24T11:09:54.163-08:002016-02-24T11:09:54.163-08:00Thanks for the link, c47.
And as usual the enviro...Thanks for the link, c47.<br /><br />And as usual the enviros are nowhere to be found when you're talking about miles-wide strip mines. Instead they protest no-impact suction dredging. Of course, they suck up all that dirty mining and fracking money via various funds and foundations. <br /><br />And Harry Reid has to be one of the most odious creatures on this earth. I don't know how he sleeps at night.<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-56128436394105572972016-02-24T10:45:53.742-08:002016-02-24T10:45:53.742-08:00Thank you ...I am echoing but it is so difficult t...Thank you ...I am echoing but it is so difficult to get the story east of the Mississippi River....encourage anyone this side of the river to share this....and if any of you hve independent media to share there too..very concerned about the extent of this coverup ....encourage listening to Rusty Hill the land title whistleblower......have been reading Mining news and they report Heller, Horsford, Reid working bipartisanly to get mining bills on pres. Obama's desk this term....so obvious the money trail..http://investingnews.com/daily/resource-investing/base-metals-investing/copper-investing/nevada-copper-ncu-milestone-yerington-nevada-lyon-county-congress-unanimous-land-bill/ this is too much and warn all to be careful......c47https://www.blogger.com/profile/13757756404868160748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-12061407986903737362016-02-23T10:02:04.862-08:002016-02-23T10:02:04.862-08:00Don't worry, Brenda! They are not succeeding....Don't worry, Brenda! They are not succeeding. If you check out the comments on the Blue Mountain Eagle Facebook page, Facebook.com/MyEagleNews) you can see that the locals are way too smart to fall for this ham-fisted, transparent, sabotage-for-dummies attempted psy-op they tried to pull. And everybody seems to know who in the 'media' are in collusion with them.<br /><br />Rest assured, the false complaints lodged against Glenn Palmer will be countered. It's already in the works. This house of cards is falling already and all involved will be brought to task. <br /><br />This is a pretty small group of people when it comes down to it. Yes, they may have agency power and media power behind them, but they will NOT succeed.<br /><br />Everybody who cares about Glenn Palmer remaining sheriff, please share this article far and wide, on Facebook, your blog or website, forums or messageboards you frequent. We MUST get the word out about these traitors.End the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-15111948597911571572016-02-23T09:17:48.366-08:002016-02-23T09:17:48.366-08:00Thanks. It makes sense. Problem is that if they f...Thanks. It makes sense. Problem is that if they fall for this witchhunt. Someone needs to call the sheriff association with this vindictive info. Come after those babies for filing false complaints . They are trying to make the town feel like a put them in danger and he can't be trusted with Intel and with all these articles it seems like it's succeeding Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17600738883085457019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-58210822893465547602016-02-22T21:12:17.156-08:002016-02-22T21:12:17.156-08:00Hi, Fix America,
Love your article! I like the c...Hi, Fix America,<br /><br />Love your article! I like the concise bullet-point format of you facts.<br /><br />I did leave you a comment on it, just to correct one little thing - that Sheriff Palmer didn't invite the Bundy bunch to the John Day meeting. They were invited by Tad Houpt, the organizer. Sheriff Palmer was to be a speaker at the meeting, but had no part in the organization or inviting other speakers.<br /><br />You keep up the good work too! We all need to stand together...or we fall apart.<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-91371806015334020842016-02-22T20:58:47.655-08:002016-02-22T20:58:47.655-08:00You're welcome, Josie.
- End the BLMYou're welcome, Josie.<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-2999872208689840542016-02-22T19:21:40.995-08:002016-02-22T19:21:40.995-08:00Great job!
http://fixamerica-fredmars.blogspot.com...Great job!<br />http://fixamerica-fredmars.blogspot.com/2016/02/there-is-no-joy-in-mudville-or-he-laid.html<br /><br />I was at the fairgrounds in Harney County when Ammon and the rest walked in the refuge and again to speak with ranchers about a week later. Stayed a few days and learned a lot that is not being put out in the media.<br /><br />Keep up the good work!Fix Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00974923028596095159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-59610184657640444142016-02-22T19:01:01.195-08:002016-02-22T19:01:01.195-08:00Thanks for posting this.Thanks for posting this.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18154686478917944683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-59358947681447476012016-02-22T17:35:37.059-08:002016-02-22T17:35:37.059-08:00Concerned Individual,
Not sure what your point is...Concerned Individual,<br /><br />Not sure what your point is or if you maybe think I misspoke somewhere? I don't believe I did. We're well aware of the different government bodies who run the agencies. If I am wrong about something, please let me know. I'm interested only in the truth and will amend something if it is not correct. <br /><br />The people involved that we identified as part of the "protest" are all associated with the USFS, including the ones who work at the refuge, like Clark Reames. HE says he works for USFS and is the Wildlife Program Manager at the refuge. The exception would be Steve Schuette, John Day City Councilor who is an ex-DFW trooper, which is run by OSP.<br /><br />There are many different agencies involved with the day to day running of the refuge, not just BLM/DOI. There are state and federal agencies aplenty who all have their finger in that pie. There always is when there's money to be made.<br /><br />- End the BLMEnd the BLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683769433128482354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-26397246354692618612016-02-22T17:07:27.118-08:002016-02-22T17:07:27.118-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Concerned individualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106257823897169879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1412051927139087950.post-37784899352283120512016-02-22T17:06:52.131-08:002016-02-22T17:06:52.131-08:00No comment, just point of clarification. USFS is ...No comment, just point of clarification. USFS is under USDA. Malheur Refuge & BLM are under USDI.Concerned individualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106257823897169879noreply@blogger.com